AI in Architecture and Design ft. Antonio Quesada from Morpheus & Co

AI in Architecture and Design ft. Antonio Quesada from Morpheus & Co

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Stephen Drew: Hello everyone. Grab your sandwiches, spin off that cpd. We're gonna talk about something much more interesting to the future beyond Architecture InDesign Interior Design. We're all gonna go through it. 26 seconds.

Oh man. How is everyone today? Are you all getting chat? G P T Ready, mid Journey, those prompts. We'll talk about it later. I can't give it all the way at the entrance. Okay, five seconds.

Hello everyone, and thank you for tuning in on this livestream special. I appreciate you making a bit of time to join us, and it's not just me today. You wouldn't [00:01:00] wanna hear me for just an hour, and I have an awesome guest, someone that has seen things, someone that knows what they're doing, which helps and let, I should probably introduce them.

I'm joined by the fantastic Antonio, who's at Morpheus and Co. Who's their managing director. How are you, Antonio? Are you okay?

Antonio Quesada: Hello. Very good. Thank you for inviting me here.

Stephen Drew: I'm glad you're here. And anyone in the audience, while you can participate and answer questions, you feel free to stick in. But Antonio, can you tell us a little bit about who you are, if anyone hasn't met you yet?

Antonio Quesada: Hi. My name is Antonio. I'm originally from Spain from Seville. Beautiful city. I studied Architecture amongst the most beautiful buildings where all the gold for America was coming to. So very beautiful history. I moved to the UK in 2013 to pur pursue my future in Architecture and in geo design.

And I have to say, [00:02:00] this is the breaking news. I didn't work in Architecture my first month. For the first year I was working at night in McDonald's, trying to make a living here, and I was working in a studio during the day. Very quick. After that, they recognized my effort and they gave me a full-time position.

And a few companies later now I see myself at Morpheus and Co as the managing director for an interior design studio. It has been interesting trying different companies. My last job was with Kelly Hop and Interiors, the well-known interior designer. And this is just the short story.

Stephen Drew: I love it. And then, and you're right, 2014, baptism by fire after the, it wasn't the pandemic back then, it was the global financial crisis. And I hear you too, because I. I was a part one looking for a job in 2010, which was really tricky, but it took many years, didn't it? For the market to bounce back.

But it's really interesting an Tony to [00:03:00] get that background now. What I would love to know a little bit, can you perhaps for everyone here, maybe expand on a little bit about what Morpheus and Co is and what your role is there as well?

Antonio Quesada: Of course. So Morpheus and Co is an interior design studio based in London specialize in branded residences, prime residential, and hotels. As you can see on the website is a very timeless, elegant style, and the name comes from the God of dreams. Basically we are storytellers and we help our clients and our clients commercially and private to, to understand the design process.

Cuz sometimes we're not only designers, we are teachers. We need to educate on how things are done specific way and why they have to pay the heft fees for our services.

Stephen Drew: All right.

Antonio Quesada: It's not so hefty, but is a value added to the designs. Morpheus [00:04:00] Morpheus started 25 years ago. It was started by Andrew Murray.

He's not the tennis player unfortunately, but we leave that for Wimbledon. But is he's aist so a journey maker. That he was so passionate about construction and interiors that he started to develop the houses and what we normally say is flipping houses. But he was doing it so well that an investor invested on, on, gave him a big portfolio and he was doing great, but.

Morpheus is all about dreams and having that initial research why you do things. And sometimes I like to say to our clients that we don't need to create anything new. We have thousands of years of history doing houses and homes different styles, but the essence of leaving is there.

Stephen Drew: Yeah.

Antonio Quesada: So it's like you have a big slab of marble. And you just need to chisel out sculpture. So same way with at Morpheus, we like to think that [00:05:00] we have the project, and the project is the client brief, the demographics of where, who is gonna be living there, the economy, budgets, commercially, Architectural, surroundings and it's, it, you have so many factors that are guiding you into what you have to do.

Do you just need to research and apply. Common sense. Evidently, you need to have technical knowledge, how to represent that and how to communicate that to, to every single person involved into the design process. So you have to. Explain to your client, to the bank, to the builders, and ultimately to your team.

So how so everybody knows what we want to achieve here. I think everybody would join Architecture because we wanted to create beautiful things. But at Morpheus, I think the, we are talking now not about objects or places, but end user experiences. So how do we live and how can we make that living better?

Stephen Drew: Oh, it's in, it's very interested and I, when we brought the website up, and I'll bring it up again really quickly, [00:06:00] but we've got some beautiful projects and I know that we've got, you've got some conceptual ones and some of that you are designing, which is really cool and working on some at the moment.

Can you give a flavor then, Antonio of of typical projects that you. Working at am, Morpheus and Co at the moment. Then in terms of maybe what they are, where they are and all that cool stuff.

Antonio Quesada: Of course. At the moment we have, I would say 50, 50% projects are residential and hospitality. So we are doing in the uk building development, a transformation of office building into residential use with a. It is in May 1st. So it's calorie artistic very elevated. And then we are doing a mansion house in south in SRE in south of London.

On the residential side, we are also doing the fit out of one of the. Penthouses in the new hotels opening in the city. I cannot say much more cuz evidently you will find out [00:07:00] quickly. But it's a very nice location and we, in this one particular, we are just doing the feed out. So we are not touching the Architecture, we are just providing with selection of furniture and how we can address the space.

In, in at Morpheus, it, it does the flexibility. The name Morpheus and Core is because we like to collaborate to have compassion. We have community and we create those spaces on the hospitality. On the other side, we are doing branded residents in France with six sensor, and we are developing a hotel in Cairo, in Egypt for Mob Peak.

It's a 300 keys hotel.

Stephen Drew: Yeah. Wow. It, they definitely, you got your hands full. And so there's all these live projects and I know that one of the things that we were talking about before this as well, was about how things had changed. Cause you touched upon, what it was like at in 2014. And if we fast forward now to 2023 things have quite [00:08:00] changed.

And this year, I think people have been fascinated by artificial intelligence and I was quite impressed to hear that, a company like yourself who's doing all these beautiful projects is experimenting in that as well. And so we've got this live projects, but I'd love to hear your thoughts, Antonio, on you starting to bring this emergent technology into the fold of a live business.

Antonio Quesada: Artificial intelligence is a subject to that. We have been listening in the Ho Hotel as investor summits. In January this year, there was a big summit in Madrid where the mayor, group of hotels, owners and operators, they were talking about what's coming. One of the major subjects was branded residences, and the other one was artificial intelligence.

And.

Even there was even a panel about we will need architects and interior designers in the future. I think everybody remembers or could research a little bit when everybody was so afraid of using [00:09:00] computers to draw plans. Cuz evidently everything was done by. Steelers and pencil before, and then everything was passed to the computer.

And at the very beginning it was a little bit difficult with very complex processes to draw a simple rectangle. So I think that as official intelligence is coming as a tool,

Stephen Drew: Yeah.

Antonio Quesada: And we are, and that's the way we're using it. So at the very beginning, when the technology is in early days, There is a lot of investment through for investment banks and funds because they want to see what it's possible with this technology.

At the moment is conceptual. So we have been approached, but by a big brand to brand. I'll explain. I'll do a small. Parenthesis branded residences are residences that they are made by a major brand. So you have residences that are by Four Seasons or Mandarin Oriental Hotel, but you also have Lamborghini [00:10:00] doing residences or.

Stephen Drew: Oh wow.

Antonio Quesada: The L Vmh group is doing as well, the Dior they have, they're trying to use lifestyle into a residence. So there is another brand that approached co Morpheus to what could be brand space, a real estate proposal. And we were doing our typical process that we were going into the dream and we were looking into, okay, with these properties, they need to, they're gonna be global.

So you cannot have a local, the locality will be a factor. It's taking each location, but we need to have a story that link all the locations around the world. So if the property is in Dubai, or if it's in Madrid, or if it's in New York, there should be a common thread.

Artificial intelligence is a huge help for this because they go into the internet in all the documents that they can get, hold and on the websites, and they put together that information and they do a research and [00:11:00] then a human needs to analyze that information.

And that's what we are doing. We took that information, we put a proposal for our client. This was equestrian and it was very lifestyle of family and tones for Middle East. And we have our own interpretation of that concept. And then we also have the computer to generate the image. And at the end it's surprising cuz it's so inspiring.

It is. I'm talking, our designs is a have passion, is we have passion. You see this image and all of a sudden you can see what we can do.

Stephen Drew: Yeah

Antonio Quesada: I mean my kids would love to have that bedroom with sand. They.

Stephen Drew: think it's something out of the future, whether blade, runner or a dune. But it's beautiful and I've got one or two images here, isn't it? We're not breaking any NDAs with this and stuff. Cause I don't want to get you in trouble with all your beautiful [00:12:00] mayfair, hospitality. But yeah, it's absolutely fascinating.

I, I've got these pictures as well here. Antonio,

Antonio Quesada: Oh this is absolutely absolutely computer generator. So there is no copyright at all. And when we ask the software to produce the images, we input. Our own selection of images that we use for our concept and we also add some text to, to give them an idea. So what we were looking for in this instance, it was how the living room should look like.

And what is interesting is that all these furniture and fabrics are not specific. So it is just taking from images on internet and I think what, what really takes it now on our clients, cause our clients was very happy, is oh, we have it, it's there. We can show this to our clients and they can choose.

Yes, you, they can choose, but now can you we were very, a bit cheeky and so can you tell me where [00:13:00] I can buy that table and how much it costs and that rack and the cushions. What are the cushions made of? And you have. Also you have regulation, right? So is this hospitality hotels.

So you need to fire rated fabrics. The durability of the fabrics if is gonna have children or pets or, so again, beautiful inspiration. But now what? We need to go from the concept to provide our customers with their products.

Stephen Drew: I got you. It makes sense. So while they're so full, absolutely looks brilliant and all that shades and stuff, where do you actually procure that from? Maybe that is the ne the next step. I've got this image here. Before we expand upon that as well, that you sent through. So this is the sketch then, which matches, I'm guessing these images, is that right?

Antonio, of what

Antonio Quesada: Yes. So we fed, we, we fed the artificial intelligence with this information so they could gather the size and the.

Stephen Drew: Oh,

Antonio Quesada: So it, the more [00:14:00] information that you fit to the computer, more accurate results you will get. They're working so hard on developing. I don't, I think it's version 4.2 now on, on tbt, if I'm correct.

We can get it, we can get it that later, but it, every time they release a new version, the engine, it's more accurate and filter better on the proposals.

Stephen Drew: Yeah. Yeah I think so. It makes complete sense. Do you use stuff then, Antonio, like Mid Journey to generate images at the moment, or is it mainly is something that you're developing in-house? You mentioned chat GT as well. I'm just quite curious if you, there's particular tools that you use right now or if you're experimenting with different mediums to get different results.

Antonio Quesada: Yeah. So I e actually use Chap G b T to, so we, we weren't in a design panel for for our lighting company last month. And we were talking about artificial intelligence as well. And after when we have one of these [00:15:00] design panels, we'll, normally you can give feedback and use your experience of the panel to prepare for the next one.

Now we're planning to meet annually, twice, but We want to build up on this process and instead of creating from scratch again, what's agenda, what's the feedback, how it's experience because we were talking about the artificial intelligence. I fed to chap G B T, the key points of the meetings, the experience on my own words.

And then I said, can you please do semi-professional response press release. Believe it or not, it has gone in all the press release as the opinion from office. So I'm just re I released here that it was curated by our team, but it was originally drafted by Chad and it's brilliant cuz it's save you all that time to draft the name core of the document and then you just release.

So it saves time. It's a tool.

Stephen Drew: Yeah I agree. And we [00:16:00] touched upon earlier as well, because in this role that you are as managing director, one of the things that I think that I use in the business, artificial intelligence is not necessarily. Production it can be the back of house stuff as well. And that's where I think it has the massive benefits.

And I reckon that one could argue that artificial intelligence, rather than pulling away the role of an Architect or an interior designer and one could argue that it actually frees you up to do more of the design because stuff like that press release you on about, You direct it, you like it, you can send it out.

And do you have any thoughts on whether you agree or disagree on that, Antonio?

Antonio Quesada: I, I think that our jobs will need to develop into, have more of a. Creation or editorial roles and leave the technology to to do the mechanical work and most stationery if I [00:17:00] may that it is not, it's not our. It is not a good use of our time. I think from the beginning of the time when I was at McDonald's at night and then doing this studio in the morning, and now I find every time I have less time during the day to do all the tasks that I want to do.

And you start talking about priorities, and this is urgent, but it's not a priority. And then this is not urgent, but it's a priority and you need to use all these exercises that. All these books talk about. But using technology can actually let you help you achieve all of the points and also trusting your team doing those editorial points.

So I think it's, yeah, need to be created. I don't think we can use technology alone, but is coming to help and to make our life easier.

Stephen Drew: No, I hear you and makes complete sense. While we were talking. Sandra says hello and Sandra, it's good to see you here. If you have any questions for Antonio, please do let us know. But while [00:18:00] I. The audience is in the background. Antonio, what I was gonna ask you is that it's quite exciting, artificial intelligence.

The projects that you see you talk about are quite cool and exciting as well. What else are you excited about at the moment that you are working on?

Antonio Quesada: Oh, I'm very excited about the development of the branded residents and service departments. We are, we, with all the research that we have done. Through the beginning of the year, we have noticed that the way we live has changed dramatically. Covid came to shake the foundations of the human way of living.

In my previous practice, actually, we implemented something that it was unthought. In the past that is having, as part of our team, living in their countries, we're talking about international practices. When people like me from other country come to the UK to work and they are located remotely, and so that now apply to the way we live.

People is not so keen to live in the center of the cities. Houses need terraces [00:19:00] and outside spaces and also, For some, many people historically, you have your house in the city and then you have your house in the beach or your grandparents' house and you don't use your house fully all the time.

So I'm really keen to see how artificial intelligence and branded residence come together to have Airbnb rental formats that you can offset the time that you're not using your space, so you to let someone to use it and enjoy. And make a better use of the buildings that we have.

Stephen Drew: Yeah, it makes sense. Before there would be a never a chance that I could even possibly return to Wales, because that's where I. I grew up, that's where I came from, and I came to London to study Architecture. And before you just, I could never come back, but maybe one day now if you say flexible working, possibly you can.

So I'm glad you are. You are excited about that now. What what's really interesting, and I love the fact that, so in this role at Morpheus and [00:20:00] Co, you've got these cool, exciting projects, but it would also be really cool if you can illustrate what it's like to work there. You touched upon the culture in different ways of people living and how is everything at Morpheus?

So I'd love to know what your setup is and what you're proud of at the moment in terms of how you work together as a team.

Antonio Quesada: Oh wow. These, I have to say, in six months. I was using this image with my team before. It has been like a train without brakes. We were running and making all these new ideas and these changes. We have launched the new website. That is what you can see now live. We are actually, this week we are moving to a new office where we are having doubled space.

I'm creating a space for all the materials library. So I know that I mentioned that working remotely is really good and really interesting. But the human interaction with the materials and touching the materials, is that something that [00:21:00] I don't think we should be able to replace anytime soon because that experience is important.

Between the designers and with the clients. So in the new space, we have our design library with materials and a very beautiful space to put layout the whole presentation. So we have high level view on how the story is coming together. We have Kitchen area that is, is important to socialize. So the one of the key the values of the company are one of the aspects that attract me the most about Morpheus is that the community We are trying to ca create spaces, but we are, we communi communicate and cove and living together is really important.

So we sit down at the kitchen table and we can share ideas and talk and having lunch together and knowing what the other person like, and this doesn't like it. It brings the culture is very important. I always believe that if my team needs to do over time is a bad management. I haven't allowed for the project properly.[00:22:00]

So I would say that everybody is between nine and six and r. Rarely we have to do overtime in the studio unless we have a last minute change. But everybody can go back home to their families, to their hobbies and enjoy their lives. We spend a lot of time together, but it's very important that they also have time for themselves.

Stephen Drew: No, that's really cool to hear. And I have a similar thing in terms of my business where I think that it's important to be together as well. You don't want to lose that touch. And one thing I'm conscious of as well, maybe an interior design graduate or a part one Architectural, Assistant kind of needs.

I think it's really important when training and someone's new to the industry. They have to be there present. But of course you want to be flexible to people's lifestyles and I think it's amazing then the fact that, you try and manage out the hours as much as possible. I know that deadlines pop up every now and then and all this stuff, but it is very important to, to get that balance as well.

[00:23:00] What I was gonna say to you, Antonio, cause we talked, you talked about again, your. Baptism by fire at your first job in the UK in 2014, and so now you're the managing director. But you've also been in that position before where you've been looking for a job, but now I imagine you get lots of CBS come in and portfolios maybe at a general point in thinking of Morpheus and Co.

Is there any advice that you'd say that if an application came through, it would. Grab your attention or do you have any thoughts o on that now that you've seen the whole process from the ground up to where you are?

Antonio Quesada: Oh, yes. I think I think it's really important to the way you present yourself

Stephen Drew: Yeah.

Antonio Quesada: The, when you are applying. Nobody is expecting that letter. So to looking now from the other side when you receive the letter and the letter is not personalized so I might get 12 letters applying for a job and it's hi, responsible per personnel [00:24:00] of the department, can you please?

And it's a very formal letter. We are very open nowadays. We have LinkedIn, Instagram websites. If anyone wants to apply for a job at Morpheus, they can really easily know who works in the company and they can send the letter to info or to hr, but they know. Can I please speak with Antonio or with Beck that is the studio manager.

It's written, so if they take the extra effort to know who they need to address the letter to that catch my eye now because it is someone that really care about. Applying to this role we are passionate about our jobs, so that's important. And then one thing that I'm very particular is when I receive a CV or a portfolio and there is Ty Typographies or things that are not accurate I remember very well, we received the presentation from an Architect, a very prestigious Architectural studio to our office for a project that we need to collaborate. And I was reading the presentation, there were mistakes. I'm [00:25:00] not a native language English and speaker, but I can pick up very big mistakes and also sentences that they were not finished they were talking, the roof is made off.

And then you turn the pages and nothing else is said. Okay. So it's not made of anything. And it was a, it was first. So when I see that in our CV on our portfolio, I think they, they haven't paid attention to what the their presentation. So what else they could forget if I hire them.

But again I've really think that on the hindsight, I'm very fair. I never. Just judge a person on one interview. I have a philosophy that I, we should have two on an interview. It is not me liking you. It's you liking me too.

Stephen Drew: Yeah. Yeah.

Antonio Quesada: think. I think this is a relationship that we need to build, like speed dating.

We need to like each other. Your company sounds good. Your services and your skills Sounds good to my company too. And then we talk further.

Is that dual direction?

Stephen Drew: No, I agree. It's I love it. Professional [00:26:00] speed dating, isn't it? And grabbing people's attention. Sometimes when I've done university lectures, I do say if you've been on Tinder and you've swiped to the left and the right, you know how important first impressions are. And I think that it would be naive to say that they're not there.

And you're right. I think sometimes going a bit, digging deeper in the document, if you get typos, It ruins the immersion, doesn't it? And I think that a CVN portfolio should be someone's most important document. It's like the pitch of all pictures, isn't it? But instead of a building, it's your professional career and there's a lot at stake.

Because if that goes well, then maybe you, can you impress someone a bit more? Then potentially the offer, the opportunity might become more and more attractive as both people get excited. I agree. It makes complete sense. And one quick que of a question I would ask you as well, because I'm, while we got AI in tech I also see all links and websites and I think those can be quite [00:27:00] cool.

However, I always tell people, you still gotta get that CVM portfolio and a pdf. Down to perfection, not too big, not too long, and get the flow and the graphic design right. Is that also important for you, Tony, as well? To get the core things before going off on a tangent, making a virtual reality website?

Antonio Quesada: Yes. I have two, two things to tell about this one. One is when you're finished, where we're talking about interior design and Architecture, our clients will always. Focus in the last corner of the last bathroom that tile is chipped, and you have told them the client already, that corner is gonna be fixed.

They don't, they ignore the whole project. They will only think about that you're thinking, can you forget the 1% and look into everything that we have achieved. They will come and fix that corner. The same apply to the portfolio. Our portfolio is as good as the worst image that you put in.

So rather, don't that rather not put an image that is gonna [00:28:00] ruin your portfolio and show the good quality work that you have done so, Rather than dropping everything, like the first drawing that you did the first day at university is important because it is your presentation and you can have a beautiful shared, but if you have a drop of coffee, that's the only thing that they're gonna look at.

Stephen Drew: I got you. It, it makes sense. It's the thing that sticks out. I'm glad you think the same and the other bit cool

Antonio Quesada: sorry, but never be a shame of what you have done. So one thing is the presentation on the portfolio, but on your CV. I actually value when people tell me, I, when at the beginning of my career I work on retail or like myself, I work at McDonald's. Some studios, they will say if you haven't been coming, so you're not coming from Harvard or you're not coming from some.

Any specific university, I'm not even looking at your CV. I think that's a, that's could be a mistake. I'm not saying that it's wrong, but it is very important that we are going to know you. So you [00:29:00] cannot hide things in the process. And actually for me being in at McDonald's, I can value that someone is hands on.

They can follow protocols. So it is, there are many readings when you have something like that in your portfolio, but you are supporting your family and you, but you are keen to develop your career, so that's important as well.

Stephen Drew: I agree. And I used to stack the shelves at Waitrose and Sainsbury and while studying Architecture and those bills gotta pay themselves. So I I agree with your humble roots as. I do have one more question on careers in the bit, if you'll indulge me. But quickly I just wanted to say that we've had one or two more hellos in the audience.

Sonder is a fan of the graph of the graphic design, the re, the refresh for the website, which is cool. And he answer says, interesting CVM portfolio point. But I think the problem with mistakes is the lack of paying attention to details as we taught this in Architecture as a school. Amazing guys.

Thank you Sandra, for adding. Your [00:30:00] Carmen's is, it is really important. Antonio, one other thing about careers, cuz you've had, again, I keep saying the baptism by fire, however it really is you came to London to look for a job in 2014 and I always say to people that I. Getting, getting your first job in, in the country where you've not studied or whatever is very difficult.

Very difficult. And one of the podcasts I've done before, which was titled How to Get A Job in the UK Without UK Experience, has been one of the most watched because people go through that process and it's difficult. People are not getting back to you. And you've been through it firsthand and now you are where you are.

It's specifically about, Getting the job in London or the uk. Do you have any tips on that, Antonio, or for someone who's hasn't worked here before?

Antonio Quesada: I think that nowadays when I attend events with suppliers and manufacturers and other colleagues, I think that if we need to [00:31:00] be humble in the sense that if you don't have experience, I. We need to do the internship, we need to do the work experience. And many studios, they're happy to take on board that kind of roles.

At Morpheus we do every summer we are we have one or two people coming in and do the work experience and the internship so they can not only to give them that first role, but it's also to understand that each studio works differently. My own career. I work in different studios and each studio, it has a different way of working, different aesthetics, different hierarchy.

When you are deciding I want to become an Architect, or I want to become an interior designer going back to what you put in your CV, if you don't know what you want to do, just show hospitality, residential office education, hold. Everything, hospitals. If you want, but if you want, if you know that you want to do luxury or you want to do super yards or you want [00:32:00] council housing, just target those studios and go and visit them.

There is, there, there is something called open days. And take your time and go there and visit them. Speak who, see who you can speak with and ask about their work experience and internships so you can get that first role. Speak with colleagues that they might have gotten an opportunity.

And it the market at the moment, it's really difficult. You cannot find people that is passionate that you have fire in their belly to, to do what we would love to do. So it's if you show that into the studio manager or to someone that is in the team, they actually will get it.

And actually the last two recruitments we have that at Morpheus came through people speaking to my team on LinkedIn saying, hi, can, do you have an opportunity for me? Who can I speak with? So doing that initial research and trying to get to that people.

Stephen Drew: Yeah, it's the whole landscape has changed, isn't it? It's not a case of knocking on the [00:33:00] doors per se. And I, sometimes I do fit, I do say to people as well, you're right with LinkedIn and all these tools, it's quicker than ever to get in front of people. And I think early Antonia, when you were talking about that initial email, if it's addressed to you, it'd be so much.

Different than de Sir or Madam at com. It's just like it might get even flagged up by the spam filter because that's what of spam was like and me and you were talking about once the fact that you put the word director on LinkedIn, basically you end up in a million billion sales lists. Yes. So I agree.

While we were talking, Jason also mentions on the subject that most people who come for him from help cause Jason does mentor. So I struggled to get a job in the uk and the sooner as you mentioned visas in his experience, it spooked some of the companies. But these visas are getting easier to get and I'm thankful it's getting easier to get because it would [00:34:00] be a shame, isn't it?

And I think that, Especially in London, I'm not even from London. We're all like, come into the city. There's lots of opportunities and I'm glad that these barriers are slowly being broken down and things are feeling exciting. I was gonna say to Antonio, we, we've talked about ai, which is the future in here.

You talked about what's been talked about in the conferences and what's happening. Just chill out question here. What are you excited about coming up in the next few months then?

Antonio Quesada: We we just won two projects in the Middle East and Asia. So I'm very excited cuz they are linked to the silk route

And the mega giga projects in the Middle East. So I'm really excited to see how that develops cuz I think that. The concept behind those giga projects is actually sustainable.

It's actually very clever the way they want to do it. One of, one of the things is that they want to make sure that within five minutes of your [00:35:00] house, you have all the services available, but in, with 15 minutes you can take a train and you can go and visit other neighborhood and other hub, as they call them.

So I think that there is the potential that they will, that the Architecture will be. To the 21st century for real not just a marketing tool. And they're gonna be thinking about how can we make the life of the people better? And using this tool and using these giga projects is just a ground to for experimentation.

So that, that really excites me on how, what's the next and how are we going to make it happen?

Stephen Drew: Very interesting and it. I tell you what I've look, cause it seems like especially work in the wider world. You touched upon the Middle East that you went to a project, which is amazing. Now I work with some other Architectural practices and interior design companies where there's a lot of exciting stuff happening in the Middle East and unfortunately some peop some projects in the UK at the moment, I think companies which are focusing solely on projects in London [00:36:00] have struggled a bit more than those international.

It may, it's nice to hear. That you have stuff as well globally. And just what I was gonna say on that note, so you've got all this stuff going on here. If people wanted to get in touch with you to either learn more about the project or say, now there's someone now who's watching this, who's a graduate or an interior designer or whatever, and they'd love to get in contact with you, Antonio, where do they find you?

Antonio Quesada: Oh, please use our new launch website. We are actually quite active on LinkedIn, Morpheus and Core and we also follow on Instagram, so if you want to see our latest dispatches and our latest projects we are launching Maybe once every week. And we are updating the project that we're working on and if you are interested to work experience or internships we're not afraid about visas.

We are just, we will work through the work experience with you [00:37:00] and we are always happy to have a sit down and give you our feedback.

Stephen Drew: Makes sense, and perfect. So I really appreciate you being here. Everyone should check this out. Now for the audio listeners, after this, you can watch the video and see the projects, but the website is www.morpheusandcode.com. You can Google morphus and co and you can find. That, all that juicy, beautiful stuff online.

Thank you so much for coming here. Antonio, I really appreciate it. And if it's cool with you, I'm gonna wind down the stage now, but I also wanna say thank you to everyone in the audience for tuning into this livestream. But also, I know it's the modern world, right? So if you're watching this replay in bed or something, cuz you were too knackered, he'd been working the full day.

Antonio does nine to sixes, so maybe send him an application. But thank you so much for everyone tuning in. I'm gonna end the live stream now, and Tony will stay in the stage for one [00:38:00] minute and for you in the audience. Have a lovely lunch and see you soon. Take care everyone. Bye-bye now.

Antonio Quesada: Thank you. Bye-bye.